the fact that she went and cut her hair off. that was huge. she could've -- she could've stayed hannah montana forever and made a great living doing that. but she's more of an artist than that. and she wanted to evolve and she had to take her time, let that evolution take place. and, again, she's very, very smart and she's had all of this thought out in advance. there's been times where i've seen, you know, things going on with miley. she knows the chart, she set a path, she knew what she wanted to do. in today's world, the shock factor is tremendously higher than it used to be. >> and also with miley, i always feel, is that like we see her stumbling out of nightclubs or in some sort of scandal or, you know, sort of sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll stuff you might see with lindsay lohan and others, i've not seen that side to her. i mean, have i missed it all or has she been pretty good? >> she's never been arrested, you know. she's really very focused and loves way she's doing.